# Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Isn't it ironic, don'cha think?

Apparently a Muslim woman in the UK wore an all-over swimsuit to go swimming in Britain and received a bit of flack for it. I just need someone to explain this logic to me:

I'll tell you why you shouldn't go swimming like this in Britain; it's because women in this country are equal to men and are not obliged to cover themselves up when swimming - or indeed at any other time - because some men somewhere have decided that's how it has to be. Women in Britain fought for and died for the right to be equal. In this country we are able to dress, or undress, exactly as we see fit. If that's not your choice, poor you. But don't be surprised when people mock you and pass comment on your totally inappropriate clothing for swimming.

[ Comment by Linda Allan of Bath - The Guardian ]

This is the problem with "freedom" in the west, and likewise the issue I've always had with women's rights in the west. The freedom and choice were hard fought and won, and if you don't use that freedom to choose exactly the same as everyone else, then you are an affront to that freedom. But how is that freedom?

One of the things I've come to respect the most about my wife's country of Indonesia is their respect and reverence for the different traditions, ways, cultures, and practices of the peoples of their country and ultimately the world. They understand that each people have their own adat, and in order to be civilized there must be respect for each other.

Props to Islamophobia Watch.

#    Comments [8] |
Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:48:11 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I just think this guy thinks it should be mandatory for women to swim topless like guys do, unless they are a little chubby and feel more comfortable in a t-shirt that really only serves the purpose of getting wet and highlighting the rolls that they were actually attempting to cover up. I actually think he may just be a bit of a horney bloke more than anything. Cheeky closed minded brit
Alex
Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:21:50 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
Funny how that works. Is it a question of freedom or lack education about freedom and other cultures mixed with influence of popular culture?
Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:27:34 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I think it's a question of people confusing their freedoms.

This is something I've always been irritated about with many in the "women's rights" movement. They fought for the right to be equal to give them choices, but if they don't choose to have a career and prefer to be domestic, they are looked down upon for not "exercising their freedom".

In the case of women who prefer to cover, if they wish to, it is their freedom to choose. Countries like Iran or the Taliban controlled Afghanistan are wrong for forcing women to cover. Countries like Turkey and France etc are just as wrong for forcing women to not cover.
Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:45:17 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I agree with you.

But living in a society where everything swings from extreme to another (balance is really not our thing), isn't it somewhat the responsibility of people strong enough to make choice different than those of accepted mainstream ideas to help educate the rest of the populous and help redefine the meaning of freedom to integrate the choice they've made?
Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:26:13 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
So the upholding of the freedom ideal is the burden of those who choose to exercise that freedom? And not incumbent upon all of us a society to uphold the ideals that we believe in?

I can understand that this is difficult when it protects the freedoms of hate mongers to march in Nazi rallies or gather in KKK meetings. Those are the freedoms that truly test the experiment. But when it is a discussion of what level of modesty to dress to?

Once upon a time in the west it was unseemly to wear a bikini to the beach; it was distasteful and obscene. But now the wearing of too much clothes is? How backward is that?
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:48:34 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
What do you think of what's going on in Turkey?
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:51:51 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I pay little attention to Turkey. They are still dealing with the collapse of the Ottoman empire (a super power in it's day) and the rule of Ottoturk. They still don't know what continent they are on, or what kind of people they are, or what they should be doing.
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:11:39 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
fair enough.
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